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Previous episode Venture capital: whose money a startup investor really puts in

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Management fee and carried interest: how a venture capitalist gets paid

A venture capitalist runs other people's money for ten years. People in the business call the pay '2 and 20'. What do those two numbers pay for, and who pays them?

  1. 1 Miva now runs a fund of $100 million for ten years. Her firm is the small company that runs the fund, and it does not work for free. Each year, it takes 2% of the fund to pay for salaries, an office and trips to meet founders: $2 million a year. This is the management fee.the fund$100 million$2 millionevery yearMiva

    Miva now runs a fund of $100 million for ten years. Her firm is the small company that runs the fund, and it does not work for free. Each year, it takes 2% of the fund to pay for salaries, an office and trips to meet founders: $2 million a year. This is the management fee.

  2. 2 Over ten years, that comes to about $20 million. So of the $100 million, about $80 million is left to put into startups.10 years of fees: $20 millionfees$80 million into startupsexample numbers

    Over ten years, that comes to about $20 million. So of the $100 million, about $80 million is left to put into startups.

  3. 3 Her real pay waits for the end. First, the limited partners get back every dollar they put in. If the fund brings back only $100 million, that is all of it, and Miva gets nothing more.What if the fundbrings back$100 million?$100millionlimited partners:all $100 millionMiva: $0

    Her real pay waits for the end. First, the limited partners get back every dollar they put in. If the fund brings back only $100 million, that is all of it, and Miva gets nothing more.

  4. 4 Only what comes after that is profit, and Miva's firm keeps a fifth of it. If the fund brings back $200 million, the profit is $100 million: $20 million for Miva, $80 million more for the limited partners. That fifth is the carried interest, or carry.What if the fund brings back $200 million?$100 millionback first$80 millionmoreprofit: $100 millionlimited partners: $180 millionMiva: $20 million

    Only what comes after that is profit, and Miva's firm keeps a fifth of it. If the fund brings back $200 million, the profit is $100 million: $20 million for Miva, $80 million more for the limited partners. That fifth is the carried interest, or carry.

  5. 5 People call this deal "2 and 20". The 2 pays the bills. The 20 is what can make Miva rich, and only if the fund turns $100 million into much more. She will pick twenty startups to do it.Miva2 and 20the fund

    People call this deal "2 and 20". The 2 pays the bills. The 20 is what can make Miva rich, and only if the fund turns $100 million into much more. She will pick twenty startups to do it.

  6. Quick check

    Fees and profit.A fund of $50 millionbrings back $50 millionafter ten years. Howmuch carry does itsgeneral partner get?

    Fees and profit.

    Show the answer

    None. The limited partners first get back all they put in, and nothing is left over: no profit, so no carry.

  7. Go further

    Two numbers you meet in almost every fund.20%carry89 of 94 venture fundsof one study took exactly20%. Some writers traceit to the merchants of Venice2%management feemany funds take lessafter the first five years,once new startupsare no longer picked

    Two numbers you meet in almost every fund.

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